Two filmmakers featured in this year’s FRAMES of REPRESENTATION, Adele Tulli (Normal) and Shengze Zhu (Present.Perfect. (Wan Mei Xian Zai Shi)) discuss their approaches to filmmaking beyond the confines of dominant cinema in a conversation hosted by film programmer, director and co-founder of Kitchen Sink Collective Ludovica Fales. Though the contexts (both formal and cultural) in which they work are starkly divergent, Tulli and Zhu both question the place of cinematic language in contemporary life, examining the ways in which it compels us to perform, as well as how it incites us to consume.